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Lutz Moeller
I appointed Prodigy Group as my American Representative to later manufacture and fist sell my Bullets in Amerietwa This Infrastructure has first to be set up and Product to be shipped. Later it will be manufactured under License in the U.S.A. for the U.S.A. Single Package Shipping just makes no commercial Sense and Prodigy Group is well capable to offer World class quality. You Military, plus some Racers confidently and satisfied rely on Prodigy Group Engineering and Manufacturing since long. The President is a Hunter by himself and command enough Proof capabilities, to verify anything he will offer for me. While a complete Infrastructure for Manufacturing, Trade, Sales, Service and Web still has to be set up, not much will happen at first. But this is to let You know, the American Market will sooner or later be supplied and serviced from Amerietwa The Future looks bright - Some Deer will have to relearn, though!
In the Interim, I will republish and hope fully rework some English stuff on my Website, but not all.
Lutz Moeller, Fall 2009
Lutz,
I now own Precision Long
Range Hunter. It is a website dedicated to extreme long range hunting and
shooting. We currently have on board Bryan Litz which is Berger bullets chief
Ballistician.
I would like for you to join our website if you have the time and comment on
bullets when you have the time. I have been in contact with you for a long time
now and have always believed your bullets to be the most superior solid bullets
available. I know I had said a while back that it would be nice for you to have
a contact here in the states to produce your bullets. Did I have in any way
along with many others I am sure, to have you procure a manufacturing supply
here in the states?
I would also like to in the future have a link to your new website from my
forums page. I was wondering where did the English articles and our
correspondence go on the website?
Dave Boday
Dave,
unfortunately some of the projectiles and other devices
have to remain military exclusive. To give you a brief history, one of my
companies was formed in 1935. We have literally been a military supplier
since the inception. I wasn't even alive when Universal Machine and Tool
Works was formed which is one of my companies that holds most of the
military contracts but I purchased this company in 1999. The three primary
Companies are Universal Machine and Tool Works, Inc. Prodigy Defense
Technologies, Inc. and Prodigy Group, Inc. Between these companies we have
been designing and manufacturing military hardware for just short of 75
years, many of which are just now becoming declassified and many of which
will most likely never see the light of the public. To give you a brief on
Lutz he is a physicist with an extremely good understanding of Ballistics
and Aerodynamics. I and Lutz have collaborated on military an other related
projects for some time and I have found his projectile designs to be some of
the most innovative I have seen. I do not say this lightly due to my
companies have been designing similar types products for military use for
many years. Everything from missiles to rail gun projectiles that fly at
over 15,000 fps. Our proximity is by design we are literally 50 miles from
Crane Naval which is the small arms research and development arm of USSOCOM
and much of the DOD. We are also 20 miles from Raytheon/Naval Ordnance which
is a major missile supplier to our militaries. This will be our first
venture into the civilian side of things so I am sure we will have allot to
learn relating to the industry. This is why we have chosen to partner with
Lutz we do not need to reinvent the wheel but we do want the wheel of an
Indy car at the core of our products.
Military Exclusive: Unfortunately due to the nature of some of the
projectiles and products we design USSOCOM and the DOD decides what we can
and cannot sell to the civilian market. Our intentions are to sell any
projectile designs that do not conflict with ITAR and our secrecy orders. We
hope that our customers will understand that something's are just not meant
to be in the publics hands. Our troops need to maintain every advantage they
can and once something is made public it eventually reaches the hands of or
enemies like it or not.
Polygon Rifling, This technology is very useful and has many merits but
after discussing the related advantages and disadvantages with Walther USA.
It currently is not a fit for the current designed LM projectiles. That does
not mean that projectiles will not be designed to be used in Polygon rifling
at some point but at the moment this type of rifling is not recommended for
LM designed projectiles. Now on the other hand the progressive twist is
preferred for LM projectiles. But for conventional styled projectiles with
large bearing lands polygon rifling has advantages but has typically been
reserved for short length barrels primarily pistols.
Software and Experience: From your below list of softwares you use several
of the same products we do. Which I am pleased to here there are people
outside of our Military and Military Contractors that take an analytical and
scientific approach to ELR shooting (Extreme Long Range). A significant
amount of engaging targets at extended ranges happens before the trigger is
ever pulled. And with the hundreds of variables associated with getting on
target at extreme ranges it is imperative you control as many of the
variables before hand. Because their are many that we can not control and
can only be compensated for.
Respectfully, Robert Brewington, Mittwoch, 30. September 2009 22:09
Robert,
great news! Why are some of the LM bullets remaining
military exclusive? I am a medically retired Air National Guard that did four
years Active Duty Air Force and currently work for the DoD and am a government
civil servant employee, do I meet the requirements for the “military” stuff? I
completely understand the military supply comes first after working for them 19
years I do not have any problems with them getting first supplies and for them
to be supplied.
When referring to ELR does that mean Extreme Long Range? In the future I would
like to connect with your company on my website to promote Lutz bullets and your
company as the source. I have been in contact with Lutz for about 5 years now. I
would love to see up to a 34 inch Lothar Walther polygonal gain twist barrel. I
have one of their 308 polygonal for my 300 wsm and I am getting faster fps than
regular button, cut or fordged barrels are getting and it fouls less and the
throat has seen no erosion even with a semi hot load such as H4350 and 64.5
grains. I would like to work with you guys.
I use Solidworks 2009, Mastercam9 and ten, Catia V5 R19, Pro Engineer wildfire,
AnSYS 12 and Fluent, Surfcam Velocity, and a few other software programs. I have
been doing machinist work for around 19 years and have a lot of experience in
wire edm, cylindrical grinding, surface grinding etc. I also am partners with a
local machine shop where I do all his programming, fixture design, and proof
testing using Vericut.
Our last group buy which was for Berger bullets was around 30,000 bullets spread
out over two or three different website forums. I think we could accommodate a
rather larger buy once you get your website up and running.
Dave Boday, Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:49 PM
Dave,
thank you for the email. My company Prodigy Defense
Technologies will be producing Lutz's complete line of projectiles. Our
Manufacturing Lines are not fully operational but we do have LM105
Projectiles. The down side is our current supplies are all reserved from
military. Within the next few weeks there will be sufficient quantities to
supply the civilian markets also but some LM class projectiles will remain
military exclusive. The current version of the LM105 will be availible to
the competition
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/special-weapons/finnsniper/
and ELR shooting enthusiasts. We just recently finalized our agreements with
Lutz and his company so we do not currently have website's, brochures and
catalogs availible, but will be in the weeks to come. Dependant on your
current quantity requirements it may possibly to divert some of the
projectiles reserved for military to you, but again this will be dependant
on your volume requirement.
In addition you are correct the LM105 requires a very specific barrel twist
and best performs form a progressive twist barrel. This is something else we
are working thru to also provide high quality Lothar Walther barrels for
optimization of the LM class ELR projectiles. Other barrel manufactures are
also capable of producing the required progressive twist but we have found
that the Lothar Walther barrels are the best for consistent performance and
quality.
So my question how would you like to proceed. Do you have an immediate need?
Or would you like for me to contact you once everything is in place.
Respectfully,
Robert Brewington, Wednesday, September 30, 2009 1:12 PM
.308" | 7 mm | .375" | .458" KJG
